v=K8EpfphkuuY ) Pretty simple and you don't have to tune into drop Db or whatever they normally do. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just Pluckin Around A Bit - Circa Survive ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tuning: Standard G|------------------------| D|------------------------| repeat for 8 minutes and 12 seconds A|------------------------| E|--8--6-8---6-8--6-8---6-| listen for the timing.